<International Circulation>: There are many people in China who are trying to do studies on reduced salt intake and I know you have a lot of experience conducting these types of studies. What do you think is important for an effective study on reduced salt intake and controlling salt in a patient’s diet?
《国际循环》：中国有很多人正尝试进行减少食盐摄入量的研究，我们知道您在指导这样的试验中有很多经验。您认为在减少食盐摄入和控制人们饮食中食盐摄入量方面的有效研究中什么最重要呢?
Prof. MacGregor: The major thing is to get them to reduce their salt， which may seem obvious but it not easy to get people to use less salt and stick to it. You can do it for a few days but with the variations in how food is prepared and who prepares it it is difficult to adhere to a strict regimen of salt reduction. After a few weeks of sticking to a firm salt reduction plan the salt receptors adjust and become much more sensitive to salt. Then one much prefers food with less salt. When I got out to eat in Beijing I find the food far too salty. Once you get used to less salt and become more sensitive to it food with high amounts of added salt tastes metallic and just terrible. I would much rather taste the real fish， real vegetables， or what have you rather than those things with copious amounts of added salt. Salt really isn’t necessary once normal sensitization returns.
MacGregor教授：主要的问题是使人们减少食盐用量，这看起来很容易但是要让人们减少食盐用量并坚持低盐饮食并不是一件简单的事情。你能坚持几天的低盐饮食但是食物如何烹煮以及由谁来烹煮的可变性很难用一个严格的减少食盐用量规则来控制。在坚持了几周的严格食盐用量限制计划后，计划的接受者开始适应并变得对食盐更敏感。这时人们会更喜欢低盐食物。当我到北京后在外面吃饭我就发现食物太咸了。当你习惯于低盐饮食并变得对食盐更敏感时高盐含量的食物尝起来就会有金属味道并且很可怕。我更喜欢品尝清淡的鱼和蔬菜，而不是在加入大量食盐的情况下品尝这些食物。一旦你的味觉敏感性回归到正常程度，你就会发现食盐并不是必须的。
<International Circulation>: I beg your pardon but that sounds a bit biased.
《国际循环》：对不起，请原谅我认为这种观点听起来似乎有些偏见。
Prof. MacGregor: Well you just try it， you’ll see. In the UK everyone said the same thing as what you’re saying and what all the Chinese will say. You try it and see. You will much prefer the food with less salt once you’ve gotten used to it. For the first time in your life you taste the real taste of food rather than this mineral metallic taste. Sodium is a metal and I can’t think of much sense in adding a metal to one’s food.
MacGregor教授：你只要去尝试，就会发现我是对的。在英国，每个人的看法和你的一样，所有的中国人也都会这么说。你尝试一下就会看到效果。一旦你适应了低盐饮食，你就会更喜欢低盐的食物。你应该在你的人生中第一次品尝食物的真正味道而不是这种金属矿物质的味道。钠是一种金属并且我不能想象把金属加入到人们的食物中会是什么样的情景。
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